Unilever is calling for net zero emissions by 2050. Thomas tells Climate Home that we need recognition of the speed and scale needed for decarbonisation. Thomas explains the importance of a long-term goal in giving a strong signal to businesses; he thinks phrasing is not so important for business instead they need concrete dates and data. Decarbonisation will be expensive and the only way to catalyse private sector funds is through a long-term goal that says to investors we need to solve this problem right now.